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drpete3 03-04-2016 09:57 AM

Hmm. Went as smooth as can be for me. I purposely chose slip 56 since it was in the middle and figured I didnt want to fight for slips. Flew thru the form. got kicked back once for t shirt size.

I am sorry for all the frustration. I have maybe never used eventbrite in the past. Was the problem that everyone had that the slips were not in real time? We need to know for next year.

For those that didnt get in make sure to sign up on 3/15 and get on the waiting list if necessary.

snowhammer 03-04-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Oval (Post 695672)
I have stayed out of the registration process, owning a retail store I just don't want to have people mad at me. I feel bad for our board members that are handling this. This was to be a easy and a awesome set up. Seems not sadly. If you did not get a number I would suggest to call Lori ASAP if you have any questions. 231-582-9009.

^^^This is well said and reflects BT. I believe it will all get ironed out with the help of the people behind the scenes.

280velocity 03-04-2016 10:01 AM

Thanks for the all of the work you guys do. I left lori a message at 9.12am hopefully she will get back to me and something can get worked out.

DocktorsOarders! 03-04-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 695675)
Hmm. Went as smooth as can be for me. I purposely chose slip 56 since it was in the middle and figured I didnt want to fight for slips. Flew thru the form. got kicked back once for t shirt size.

I am sorry for all the frustration. I have maybe never used eventbrite in the past. Was the problem that everyone had that the slips were not in real time? We need to know for next year.

For those that didnt get in make sure to sign up on 3/15 and get on the waiting list if necessary.

Thats what I did, chose one a ways down the form.... im 55 buddy... seems we will get to part tay together!!

Yes the slips were not in real time... multiple people could select the same slip and whoever finishes checkout first gets it... it should be more like ticketmaster... once the slip is selected by someone completing the purchase, they get an allotted time (maybe 3 minutes) and the slip selection is removed so no one else can select it and they can finish the checkout. After 3 minutes expires, if the purchase is not complete, the slip goes back to available and that person loses it.

jriggs 03-04-2016 10:14 AM

I just want to know where dock # 50 is!!!!

phragle 03-04-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 695675)
Hmm. Went as smooth as can be for me. I purposely chose slip 56 since it was in the middle and figured I didnt want to fight for slips. Flew thru the form. got kicked back once for t shirt size.

I am sorry for all the frustration. I have maybe never used eventbrite in the past. Was the problem that everyone had that the slips were not in real time? We need to know for next year.

For those that didnt get in make sure to sign up on 3/15 and get on the waiting list if necessary.

The problem is that you have 100 people trying to pick 60 spots at the same time, all in a mad dash to try and get in while answering a bunch of questions at the same time. The system has created a competition amongst very competitive people who do not like to lose.

One of the great draws of BT is how seamless it is, how everything is taken care of. This process completely drops the ball and loses sight of that.

s022mag 03-04-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Oval (Post 695673)
And yes you are welcome to park on any of my property, I will make room!

My AC unit doesn't work when it's sitting on a trailer:slaps

s022mag 03-04-2016 10:29 AM

The dock selections have never been in real time. The last 3 years I've done it you basically got a slip based on how fast you filled the form out:lame:

DocktorsOarders! 03-04-2016 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jriggs (Post 695685)
I just want to know where dock # 50 is!!!!

50 looks like it is the last raft spot on the main dock... I think they missed the label but that dock as 3 X's in it... one in the middle should be 50... Dont mind my mad paintshop skills

280velocity 03-04-2016 10:40 AM

There is no spot 50. There is the big wide cig huntress that takes up to much space to put other boat in that spot. (50)

phragle 03-04-2016 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Oval (Post 695672)
I have stayed out of the registration process, owning a retail store I just don't want to have people mad at me. I feel bad for our board members that are handling this. This was to be a easy and a awesome set up. Seems not sadly. If you did not get a number I would suggest to call Lori ASAP if you have any questions. 231-582-9009.

I dont think anybody is upset with you or pete or wrink or lori.. I think a lot of people want to beat eventbrite severly about the head and shoulders like a red headed step child though.....

boatfreak28 03-04-2016 11:02 AM

Well I have a hard time bitc-ing too much as I flew right through the entry and got the slip I wanted. Butttttt
I complained last year that the sponsorships were not a good idea when you only have limited dockage and I will say it again. I don't think I'm crazy to say if it continues this will be a run of 40 sponsors and that's it. I will say I get the whole idea behind the sponsorships and it is a great way to raise a lot of money for the charity but it comes at a cost. When "average Joe" can't get a slip but yet is still asked to pony up $1000 to do the run it has to make you question how long this will go on. I think we've done this run 5 or 6 yrs in a row and said last yr I thought it would be the last but when our friends said they were going back I caved in and entered but I'm still not sure we will be there.

jriggs 03-04-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DocktorsOarders! (Post 695696)
50 looks like it is the last raft spot on the main dock... I think they missed the label but that dock as 3 X's in it... one in the middle should be 50... Dont mind my mad paintshop skills

Top notch art work there.....I hope u are right and that is my spot!!

drpete3 03-04-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jriggs (Post 695717)
Top notch art work there.....I hope u are right and that is my spot!!

I think he is correct

Blue Oval 03-04-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by s022mag (Post 695689)
My AC unit doesn't work when it's sitting on a trailer:slaps

For you I would get one of my window units from up stairs and let you use it. We can make it work thru the hatch! You may have to put some gas in my generator though, if you plug into the garage it will blow the breaker.

ROADHOG 03-04-2016 11:43 AM

Here's a couple of suggestions, Raise the sponsorship to 5500.00 or limited 20 slips for sponsorship and put them put them up for auction with a starting bid of $5500.00. I have no dog in the fight because I drive a Fishing Boat.

This way we can find out who the real PLAYERS ARE.

jriggs 03-04-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 695718)
I think he is correct

So are you supplying all the PBR Friday night Dr. Pete?

Regartie 03-04-2016 04:31 PM

To the BT team-

I hope my comments weren't taken in a negative light, but I was severely frustrated at 3 am in the middle of the ocean.

May I respectfully request to be included in the registration process planning for next year?

While I'm not an IT genius, I have a clear idea of what may work and I think it is well along the lines of what others are thinking.

Locking down the slip needs to be step 1. Period. Otherwise you end up in a vicious circle.

Looking forward to another year, I'm sure it will work itself out, but we need to do better.

My .02

offshoreexcursion 03-04-2016 04:37 PM

I don't think selecting the slip first is the answer.

But I don't agree with having to fill the entire form out AGAIN if the slip is already taken.

That was NOT supposed to be the case with this new registration

It should be:

Fill out registration
select a slip
if its booked
select another slip

TripleB 03-04-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Regartie (Post 695796)
To the BT team-

I hope my comments weren't taken in a negative light, but I was severely frustrated at 3 am in the middle of the ocean.

May I respectfully request to be included in the registration process planning for next year?

While I'm not an IT genius, I have a clear idea of what may work and I think it is well along the lines of what others are thinking.

Locking down the slip needs to be step 1. Period. Otherwise you end up in a vicious circle.

Looking forward to another year, I'm sure it will work itself out, but we need to do better.

My .02

You already have a black mark by your name, a$$ kissing won't help:)

Maybe you should tell them your best friends with old Doc T:nutkick

MacGyver 03-04-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoreexcursion (Post 695798)
I don't think selecting the slip first is the answer.

But I don't agree with having to fill the entire form out AGAIN if the slip is already taken.

That was NOT supposed to be the case with this new registration

It should be:

Fill out registration
select a slip
if its booked
select another slip

Most online forms that I've dealt with will retain all the information and highlight the cell(s) with required missing information. Re-entering every bit of information for one missing cell is a very poorly designed web site. And I can see how frustrating it is when the clock is ticking away and the limited number of slips are slipping away.

TripleB 03-04-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MacGyver (Post 695809)
Most online forms that I've dealt with will retain all the information and highlight the cell(s) with required missing information. Re-entering every bit of information for one missing cell is a very poorly designed web site. And I can see how frustrating it is when the clock is ticking away and the limited number of slips are slipping away.

In prior years there was a list of participants so you could see what "number" to put in, if I understand correctly this was shooting blind, put in a "number" and hope it wasn't taken

Regartie 03-04-2016 06:59 PM

Or we get away from picking slips. They go in order of registration time stamp (entering the code)

But I do think locking down the slip first is the answer. It levels the playing field, and allows people to fill in their information.

Just like tickets to a show, etc.

Regartie 03-04-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleB (Post 695803)
Maybe you should tell them your best friends with old Doc T:nutkick

And get kicked out all together ? :rollsmile

Wrinkleface 03-04-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleB (Post 695803)
You already have a black mark by your name, a$$ kissing won't help:)

Maybe you should tell them your best friends with old Doc T:nutkick

Maybe U should all GFYS's----->:smilie_iek_008:

Blue Oval 03-04-2016 07:53 PM

Help and suggestions would be welcomed. It would be awesome to call the web people and help them set it up. Just a guess, I would guess they are good at what they do, but have never worked with a boating event? I would think this is a pretty unique registration. Go school them Regartie!

TripleB 03-04-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Oval (Post 695868)
Help and suggestions would be welcomed. It would be awesome to call the web people and help them set it up. Just a guess, I would guess they are good at what they do, but have never worked with a boating event? I would think this is a pretty unique registration. Go school them Regartie!

Teaching them how to serve drinks on a jet won't help:nutkick

jriggs 03-05-2016 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleB (Post 695803)
You already have a black mark by your name, a$$ kissing won't help:)

Maybe you should tell them your best friends with old Doc T:nutkick

Nice work 3 B's.

TripleB 03-05-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Regartie (Post 695646)
So it appears the slip number wasn't locked down. that was THE ONLY IMPORTANT PART.

I finally chose registration #100 and it appears to have worked.

Guess it just tie my fat B!itch up to tracey's boat with no fenders. :smiley-with-glasses

Seriously guys... this was worse than years past. Not sure how they could have FKd it up anymore.

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Originally Posted by Regartie (Post 695648)
I'm just gonna start a raft up between the isles and use the BMF water taxi / dinghy service :rollsmile

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Originally Posted by Regartie (Post 695668)
Welcome to the raft up club:rollsmile:smiley-with-glasses


I got you covered, I know people


You got Doc T's slip, no one wants him there:)

Blue Oval 03-07-2016 10:57 AM

Pretty good suggestion from someone today. Next year start the registration and have everyone sign up with no dock number. Get the order of registration and go old school. Call everyone starting with the first registered, then have them pick dock number. You would have your calling order and speed up registration time online. Something would still go wrong, but would make it pretty Simple.

boatfreak28 03-07-2016 11:19 AM

That would work but then you have people like me who had decided ahead of time that I wasn't going to register if I couldn't get a slip.

drpete3 03-07-2016 11:29 AM

Also, just so its known and to help understand for anyone that "got a dock" at one water street your slip assignment may not be what you signed up for. The harbor master may do some moving around given an example of 2 50ft boats have registered for the same dock and the wells are only 80ft long.

With that thought in mind if next year the main marina is full of sponsors Im going to suggest people will get a dock at one water street and it will be at the harbor masters discretion as to what dock you get and will be determined by the order in which each participant is registered and your boat size. The point is if your at one water there is very little difference as to your slip number and location.

boatfreak28 03-07-2016 12:06 PM

I really believe that the lack of dockage and giving all of the main dock to sponsors will be the end of this run. The organizers do a great job of everything else but trying to accommodate 100-110 boats is just too much.

Blue Oval 03-07-2016 12:34 PM

I would hope the State would step up with the marina improvements before that would happen. They came up and took samples of marina floor bed late fall. I guess that has to do with anchoring docks. The harbor master keeps pushing. Very slow progress to get funding for it. Not sure where the process stands at this time.

phragle 03-07-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boatfreak28 (Post 696342)
I really believe that the lack of dockage and giving all of the main dock to sponsors will be the end of this run. The organizers do a great job of everything else but trying to accommodate 100-110 boats is just too much.

That just means that registration will be 3500 and everyone gets a dock.. lol

offshoreexcursion 03-07-2016 06:19 PM

The only thing wrong with registration is that supposedly if your slip was already taken you had to REFILL the entire form out. That was NOT supposed to be the case this year even though it HAS been every year past.

Simple

Fill out your registration form like normal completing all "required" fields
Select a slip
click submit
if your missing information IE: T-shirt size, address, boat length etc. there is a red warning message that appears and says to fill out all areas with an asterisk
continue to fill out what you missed and click submit again
If your slip is already taken then the similar red warning message should appear letting you know to select a different slip
There is no reason anyone should have to refill out the entire form

boatfreak28 03-07-2016 07:51 PM

I would think you should be able to select a slip first and then you have x amount of time to finish the transaction.

DocktorsOarders! 03-07-2016 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by boatfreak28 (Post 696434)
I would think you should be able to select a slip first and then you have x amount of time to finish the transaction.

I agree with this completely.

I believe the transaction should be completely like Ticketmaster checkout. Everyone is fighting for a slip. No one wants to be without a dock, they want to be on the water. So the checkout should allow the registrant to choose their available slip and realtime it wont allow anyone else to pick that slip. In the event that two people picked the same slip it will automatically be granted to earlier timestamp by the computer. That user will get an allotted time to finish the checkout process. 3 minutes is ample. If the checkout is not complete before the clock expires than that slip/dock goes back to available.

phragle 03-07-2016 11:57 PM

I say everyone who wants to do the run flys into boyne city the first saturday of march, then everyone climbs into the octagon, last one standing gets a dock.

boatfreak28 03-08-2016 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by phragle (Post 696475)
I say everyone who wants to do the run flys into boyne city the first saturday of march, then everyone climbs into the octagon, last one standing gets a dock.

I am soooooo in. :hammers


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